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I was feeling lonely back in my hometown because most of my friends had started romantic relationships while I was abroad. We both decided to download Tinder and see what happened. Without the app we may have never met and embarked on this wild, wonderful journey. Thank you for bringing us and so many other couples together around the world. I will forever be grateful.

Woman Man

Posted 4 years ago in Reddit redpill tinder - Permalink - Locked - Views. I know a lot of Tinder guides have been posted here before, tindwr here is my take on how to have success. Keep this in mind when you inevitably see someone shit on Tinder in the comments of this post or elsewhere on TRP. Basically Tinder uses an ELO rating system to "rate" each finder to judge how attractive account is based their swiping and how they get swiped. Obviously, if your profile swiped right a lot, you'll have a higher rating, and vice versa. It's not just how people swipe you that determines your rating, but also how picky you are.

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Woman Man

Five minutes into our first conversation, my now-wife mentioned how we would have an amazing wedding. After about a week of talking, we decided to meet up at a local bar for drinks We were at a crossroads and so after a few months of casually dating, we decided to end things.

I was in love, but thought this love story wasn't meant to last. Fast forward 9 months, and we had become inseparable. From there we never stopped talking, dating each other and falling deeper in love. For all the single people out there, especially introverted ones like us: do not be afraid to travel outside of your comfort zone. Tinder brought us together and for that, I am forever grateful. I was also adamant the next man I'd be with and commit to, would be the man I'd spend the rest of my life with just not married.

I was very fussy and didn't expect to meet a man on Tinder. I decided to sign up anyways and just match away and see what happened. My college roommate and I both would stay up on Tinder, not looking for anything serious also not looking for hookups though, just entertainment. My now husband and I matched on Tinder. I didn't think anything would ever come about from it, but one day I saw this stunning beauty come across the app. I Super Liked her, paying a dollar extra for the Super Like!

I had just gotten out of a relationship, and Annie had just started dating women so we were both nervous and treading lightly for a little bit! You don't want to just use the pictures as they are. You want to find your best ones and then edit them. Use editing software Adobe Lightroom is good, the stock Windows photo software is good, I am sure iPhoto is good to mess around with the pictures. The key is to not go overboard with the filters and everything. You still want it to look natural. The editing will add to your photo, not make your photo.

Women will know if your picture is edited too much. Edit it in a way where it looks a lot better than the original, but at the same time you can't tell it was actually edited. The generally key, as I have already stated, is variety. You want your 6 pictures to give a well rounded perspective of who you are. Variety in terms of poses, facial expressions, outfits, and locations. Obviously you want to pick your 6 most flattering pictures. The best approach to use is to pick 6 locations and outfits and take a shit ton of pictures at all 6.

Then pick the best from each group and there are your 6. Your lead picture needs to be your best one. It needs to clearly show your face and your body, uncovered eyes no sunglasses with clothes on no shirtless pics as your lead , by yourself no group pics. Your last picture also needs to be a good one, as if a girl is swiping through your pics, will be her last impression before she decides to swipe right or left on you.

Remember, she will judge you by your worst pic. In general, your bio doesn't matter. She really only looks at your pictures which are all that matter. If your pictures are good enough, then she might glance at your profile just to make sure you are a real person. Your bio will not help you at all. It can only hurt you. Since you have all to lose and nothing to gain, you need to keep your bio short and to the point.

If you are over 6 feet tall, list your height. If you are 5'10, say you are 6 feet. Put where you are from, what part of town you live in, and about 3 or 4 things you like to do. Put the college you graduated from if you have graduated. If you have a cool job, put it in there, otherwise be either really vague with it or don't put it in there at all.

Ohio State ' Fishing, traveling, fitness, and more. That's all you really need. Nothing in there that will scare anyone away or devalue you, but makes you look like a real person. Don't try to put anything witty or funny or out there. Just keep it simple.

Don't set up your profile until you are absolutely ready to start with your full profile because once you set up your profile you are put in others stacks. If you already have an account, delete it so you can start over.

Upload your pictures, write your bio, and where you go from here is up to you. Be picky. Only swipe right on girls that you are certain are who they are in their profile. If she only has face shots, chances are she is fat. Remember the rule: "If you got it, flaunt it". Girls live by this. If they have a good body, they will show it off.

If they have good tits or ass, it will be shown off. If it looks like they are hiding something, they are. Read her profile, don't just look at her pics.

Chances are you might like her pics, but then you look at her profile and it will state she is a single mom. Generally, if you have been swiping a while and have reached the point of the stack where all the girls are ugly, and then you come across one that is hot, chances are she is either a bot or single mom. Because legit hot girls who aren't single moms or don't have major red flags will never be that far down the stack. Being picky also helps your ELO score, which increases your chances of being shown at the top of the stacks of the more attractive women.

There are two trains of thought on Super Likes. One train is that its good, it will make her think longer about you. The other train is that its creepy and too much and shows her you are already too interested.

My take? Use them. I've had more good than bad from super likes. Not only that, but using a Super Like automatically puts you at the top of her stack, so you know you will be seen next time she logs on. Unless you have Tinder Gold, you only get one per day so use wisely.

I am a fan. I only recommend, however, using this on a month by month basis. I think its a good investment to use your first month. The queue which shows who has liked you is helpful and will help you gauge how good your pictures are. If its not filling up you have shitty pictures. Also the quality of girls liking you will also help you see what type of women is finding you attractive.

Lastly it helps because it helps you ground yourself to reality. A lot of girls don't log into Tinder that much, so by seeing who has already liked you, you won't get your hopes up for girls in the stack who may or may not be active Tinder hides profiles inactive more than 2 weeks. If you are successful at Tinder I think its worth it to stay on Gold after your first month.

The passport feature is useful for traveling, as you can arrange meetups with girls before you even get there. This is just my opinion though. If you aren't successful, paying for Gold won't make you successful. The best way I can describe Tinder Gold is that its a valet for an already successful Tinder user, it just makes it easier. Seeing who has already liked you might sound like something you don't really need or need to pay for, and while I agree, its actually been more beneficial than I realized.

Regardless of whether or not you subscribe to Gold, I think everyone needs to try a boost at least once. A boost puts you at the top of the stack for everyone in your area for 30 minutes. This means you will be seen by everyone who logs on during that time. I get matches regardless but each time I boost it seems like I get a lot more. Boosts help because after a while, unless your ELO score is good, you fall farther and farther down the stacks of other girls Tinder stacks, and you won't be seen.

Instead all she will see are high ELO accounts and new accounts getting their noob boost. Women swipe a lot less profiles than men do since the attractive ones will match with almost everyone they swipe right on so its vital to make sure you are showing up at the top of stacks. Timing is important with boosts. From my experience, Wednesday at pm is the best time to use it. This is ideal because its before the weekend before plans are set.

If you use it on Friday or Saturday girls already have plans. Obvious bot accounts are obvious. Their bios are often empty or extremely generic. And they often only have either 1, 3 or 4 pictures exactly. They are pretty easy to spot. Here is my take on them. Yes, that is what they are doing. However, for the right guy, they will throw that away.

Use the Brad Pitt test here. If she saw Brad Pitt had matched with her on Tinder, you think she would just try to use him for Venmo money or to get an Instagram follow out of him?

No way. If you think you are attractive enough, go for it anyway. Generally these girls obviously fishing for Instagram Followers or Venmo money should be massive red flags automatically disqualifying them from anything above plate material, but its possible to bust through the massive shit test.

I've done it multiple times. You are going to have to do the initiation. Fuck that shit about message timing, when to message her, etc. Just message her when you feel like it. The key to an opener is to be different, set the frame, use her name, and play on her emotions. I've watched girls use tinder before and pretty much every guy either opens them with a boring "Hey" or "Hi", or uses some really stupid cheesy pick up or sexual opener that is just awkward.

None of that is different, none of it sets the frame in the guy's court, and none of it plays on her emotions in a positive way. It has to be organic. Review her profile and pictures, and try to craft a message based on that. Don't compliment her physically i. Here is an example I used recently that worked. It was a profile of a nurse who said she worked the overnight shift and lets say her name was Anna.

Since I am guessing those are the 2 places I would have to choose from to take you with that schedule See what I did here?

I did a lot of things. I also gave her a reason to respond. Again, I set the frame from the first message to one that I would be taking her out without asking her out. I teased her about her bowling skills and gave her a reason to respond to defend her bowling skills. We did go on a bowling date when all was said and done. You are going to have girls who don't respond.

You are going to have girls who unmatch. You are going to have girls who take forever to respond. You are going to have girls who are just not into it even if they respond. It's really a numbers game. The more girls you open, the better chances you have at least one who goes through with it all. Don't get hung up on any one girl. Assume every girl you match with will ghost you. Assume every girl you talk to will eventually stop.

Don't get invested. Persistence is the key. They have shitty pics, and only match with 1 or 2 girls, have no abundance, and when it doesn't work out with those 1 or 2 girls whether they don't respond, stop responding, flake, etc. You have to remain persistent. Keep in mind the better you look, the better your pics are, the more attractive you are and better your text game is, the less likely she will flake, and the more likely she will respond and follow through. I can attest to that.

Remember that girls have dozens of matches and are only going to bother with their best ones. So you have had a successful opener and started a conversation. Every girl is different, from what I have learned, so there is no one size fits all plan. Some girls want more rapport and chit chat before they are comfortable giving you their number or setting up a date. Others require less. Regardless, you need to at least try to get a number or set up a date in messages or less.

Remember, she has dozens of matches, with guys who are farther along the process than you probably are, so you have to shit or get off the pot eventually. Plus she will get bored if you don't go after what you want.

The best way to do it is to have the conversation naturally flow into you asking for her number or asking her out. Here is an example that I used, of a girl who actually messaged me first:.

Me: Well we need to fix the nothing too exciting part. Let's go get some drinks, when are you free. See how I took her response and turned it into escalation. You already have the IOI, otherwise you wouldn't have matched, so why waste time? I did it on message 2. You need to look for the opening to make it flow naturally to asking for her number or asking her out. Sometimes that takes longer than 2 messages, but you get the idea.

The worst thing you can do is just make her your pen pal and ask dozens of interview style questions without escalating. She is not an idiot, she knows what you are there for.

If after messages or so you still haven't found the opening to ask for her number or ask her out, just do it. Anything longer she will probably flake. The only times I have successfully set up dates longer in advance is when she was out of town. From there you need to shut the fuck up and not contact her until the day of the date, where you confirm plans. Don't text her, don't become her penpal. All you can do at this point is hurt yourself. If she initiates with you and texts you, respond to be polite, but space out your responses.

I had a girl who was all over me from the time we set up a date to the time we met up, always texting me. I didn't want to be rude so I would respond, and I thought that since she was the one initiating, I was fine. We go out and then after the date she says she "wasn't feeling a connection". You'll never live up to the standard you set by texting her. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

Resist the urge to text her until you meet up. If she flakes, she flakes. It happens. Don't become invested. If she is truly interested she will propose a counter time. Just because she cancels doesn't mean she isn't interested.

I had one cancel on me and I thought it was over and I needed to move on but she rescheduled with me. The difference is that she will open you, so you can take her opener and play with it. That doesn't mean its any easier or harder. My problem with Bumble is that the userbase is smaller, and there are so many inactive profiles on there. I was using Bumble and saw the profile of a girl I work with who was married a year ago. She said she hasn't logged on there since Also you will match with girls on Bumble and they still won't message you.

Again, girls get tons of matches so they will only message the cream of the crop. Become the cream. They have to be outstanding. Not good. Not great. How much you want to invest in getting outstanding pictures is ultimately up to you because it takes effort and time and in some cases money. Just remember. If you aren't getting matches, its your pictures.

End of discussion. It's not Tinder screwing you over, its not shallow women only looking for validation, its not women having you outside of their Tinder preference settings, its not anything but your shitty ass pictures. Your approach if you are looking for hookups and your approach if you are looking for something more long term has to be different.

It really is a numbers game. I know this sounds cliche but the more matches you get the more your odds are in favor of at least one working out. You get more matches by having good pictures and utilizing features like boost. Tinder might seem like a lost cause if you only get 5 matches and none of them work out. But if you have 50 or matches you're going to have matches that work out, its the law of averages. Don't get your hopes up on any one individual girl until you actually meet up with her in person.

From there you apply TRP to prevent the onset of oneitis. Read her entire bio and look at all her pics before matching to find red flags. Tinder Gold in my opinion is useful if you are already successful at Tinder, but it won't turn you from unsuccessful to successful. I've seen false advice given around TRP that the opener doesn't matter, if she is attracted to you she is attracted. While attraction does matter the most, you still have to give her a reason to engage with you, invoke her emotions and set the frame.

Shit or get off the pot. She has dozens of matches and dozens of guys doing the same thing you are doing. If you don't make a move, another guy will. So I ended up looking at photos of shirtless men for an hour. Great write up on Elo but I don't understand the benefits of having a 'high rated' profile? What does this do for you? So I live in Brazil, and you know what profile pic was the most successful for me? Literally a picture of my US passport.

I swear the other pics I tried as profile pics were good too, at least on paper. One is me in nola which even has a US flag in the background. Another one is me at the navy pier with chicago in the background. A third is me up on a peak at the smoky mountains.

Yet another one is me in front of an aztec pyramid in mexico. All of those failed. If you asked me a year ago I would have thought anyone who makes that their profile pic comes off as a massive tool. But apparently it works. I'm newish on Tinder and have been disappointed with my matches.

I'm planning to train hard to bulk up and lose ten pounds and then contract with a local starving photographer who specializes in social media photos, which is gonna cost me an easy hundred bucks.

My question is this: how does my ELO score that I've accumulated with all my shitty pics effect my presence once I launch with all my new pics? Do gals who have previously swiped left on me not see "the new me", and should I therefore deactivate and reactivate my account once I'm ready for launch to refresh my ELO stature? Then I say "lets chill insert time ", and if they cant I move it around 3 times then jump ship to the next girl if they flake every time.

Lift, take some decent pictures, and have animals in the pictures and you'll be good. Can you reset your tinder Elo? I have decent pics and I'm good looking enough, but I swipe right on everyone because I'm lazy. Is there a way to reset it or do I have to make another account? I'm more or less attractive, have good pics and got hundreds of matches over half a year. So I basically text most of girls and offer to give them a nude massage with happy ending.

I worked in a spa and can actually do it good. I did the same on Craigslist, OKC, Fetlife and still do it, some women actually love getting massages and oral relief. I understand that I'm probably addicted and I risk a lot meeting new women, but so far all of them keep calling back unless they start dating someone or leave the town. And for me female puss is the sweetest treat and very often they reciprocate and treat my buddy down there with some love and kisses.

While I've had chicks come over fresh direct and make it easy- there have even been girls who come straight over, nothing happens and you never see them again. Many women on are on these apps for validation.

Works wonders. I'm going to throw out the usual advice for young guys. Get a job at a bar or club, I've been in the game for 12 years, nickels to dimes flirt with me all night to this day. So maybe your not the best looking guy in the world but in that environment, your value is obvious which to girl brain equals situation utility.

It's not hard to go from the guy she flirts with to feel safe to the guy she doesn't feel safe without. I'm not a fan of this sub generally but I am glad you made this. I couldn't agree more about people shitting on tinder. It's not the apps fault if your bio and photos are not up to scratch and have no success. I met my wifey on there and had a great time with it before that too. There are a number of things that can make or break a profile.

Honnest question. I have a fucked up , hideous face. I'm currently hitting the gym. I'm not overweight anymore but I want to know : if I get lean, will I get some action despite my ugly face or is there no hope? I will get lean anyway but I would like to know because I've been on a dry spell for about 4 years and a half now. I think I am an 8 at worst, and I logged onto Tinder this morning and saw likes in my Tinder Gold like queue.

Not one of the were attractive. I have no standarts. Give me anything I will take it. The problem is how do I GET anything? Yep its in the process,went from overweight to normal already.

But I guess thag even if I reach my natty limit it will only get me to a 4 at best. My question is hot body and ugly face, is it enough to smash from time to time? A couple of visits to a skin Doctor and some specail cream could clear up most bad skin conditions. Myself, as I'm on my path have had to deal with baldness- which isn't that bad but I found I had a few keratosis similar to a mole but skin color over my forhead and dome.

Later on I was getting a skin cancer check yahoo being in Australia Doc said I'm fine, but the bumps on my dome could one day flip and go Cancerous SO a few shots of local into them and 2 minutes work with a Laser they where all smoked.

Now my head looks damn fine like Darth Vader just hand polished the Death Star. I think you sell yourself short. If you get to your natty limit. Even if you're "ugly" dress well on top of that and you'll be an 8. Thank you. I love you. Its almost like the walkthrough to a game, except instead of winning virtual nothing-ness, you win real pussy. And how exactly is is bullshit? How does your shitpost comment add anything to the discussion at hand?

Either explain why its bullshit, or fuck off. Tell me I never knew how bad I was fucking up until I had one of my girls show me hers. Doubled down on Ketogains and lifting harder. Began focusing on that as an elevated priority. The girl I was hanging with was still all about me but she had even better prospects in waves.

God tier post. There's lots of tinder theory trying to figure it out but the picture game red pill is a real breakthrough. The Drone Approach. The Rise Of The Narcissicopter. After that you just need to have some basic text game and set up a meet. You take someone who lifts, takes care of themselves, and has abs, and with a nice haircut and put them in middle of nowhere bumblefuck and they would slay.

Put them in New York City where literally every dude is fresh and they would struggle. Lol are you insane? You have it literally backwards. Not my experience at all dude. The quality of girls were a lot higher in MA. NYC has quantity , you could easily bang hundreds of whales here if you wanted. The higher value women here just want attention. Actually, if you put anyone in a hick-town, you will notice that the quality of girls there plummets.

They're all fat. I live in a more hick area of Florida and took a trip to LA earlier this year. You wouldn't believe how the demographic changed and the quality of the matches went up. Tinder is gold in big cities. Back here, girls are stuck up, fat, and or post wall. I mean, OP isn't wrong. Problem is, after 2 messages with these girls, they just quit messaging. I'm not putting in all this bullshit, time-consuming work to fight against some plain ass kids trying to get laid.

When I go on tinder which isn't too often I'll use it for a max of 15 mins and then that's it. I'm not going to put hours of work just to match with some decent looking girl, when I can just go out and get with plenty more women, who aren't all in their little tinder bubble making it much easier, quicker and to the point and these women irl just shit on these tinder girls in comparison to looks and personality. What I'm saying is tinder is a validation site for some okay-at-best looking women who think they are the next Cardi B just because a bunch of people jerked off to their profile pictures.

I'm not a huge fan of tinder, I use it for shits and giggles, but if I'm trying to actually get laid, I'm going the quicker and easier route; Bars, Diners, Sports Events, etc. I've gotten laid off of tinder maybe 3 times in the past 3 years. When I'm away from tinder and doing shit in real life, I've gotten laid 6 times in the past 3 years.

Idk about you guys, but I'd rather get serious about relationships where I can actually get laid with them at the end in real life instead of a one-sided, boring conversation on Tinder. Yeah, I'd say that isnt too bad. Also, that isnt in total. That's just the specific scenarios I put out there in the OP. In total I've probably had over in the past three years, not that even matters, but I guess that answers your backwards argument.

Especially since unlike half of you on here, I'm not trying to get intimate with someone who looks like she ate pound cakes all her life, has no positive attitudes and is just all around not a decent person. Im not actively even looking for women, but when the day comes it isnt going to be through some slut on tinder. I'm not gonna keep feeding your ass bait, but I'll say that tinder ain't worth shit. Keep up the good work on there though pal, surely you'll eventually find someone who thinks you're capable enough to be cheated on constantly.

Wouldn't say I'm mad, just disappointed that so many people put soo much faith in this garbage app. Groundbreaking stuff, huh? Lmao, that's the whole point of the post. And WOW? NO shit? There's a night and day choice for tinder?

Dude, re read the post, because it's clear you didn't see my point and are just trying to show off in front of other redditors. If you are looking to develop positive relationships and get laid, it takes a hell of a lot less effort in the real world than on tinder.

Or, you can keep using tinder, I don't care. I'm just informing people that Tinder is not really worth all your time and money. What's your take on that? Why would they still be interested over a week when they get so many matches, they where all attractive with one being very attractive. I've seen Tinder guides and strategy posted on TRP subs before. I think all of them have good points, but all of them have some things I disagree with, and for the most part are not thorough enough.

You can't run any kind of game without getting matches. To get matches you need to have good pictures. Really needed to emphasize how important quality pictures are. Most guides don't touch on this enough. I've successfully used Tinder in 4 different cities throughout the United States, have a lot of experience with it.

Just going off what works and what doesn't. I almost swore off Tinder like everyone else at first. I knew I had good enough looks but was getting no matches. Bad lighting, bad poses, bad quality, bad settings, bad locations, bad facial expressions, bad aesthetics, bad framing, bad editing, you name it. I uploaded 6 good quality pictures and it was like I activated some kind of cheat code.

I couldn't keep up with the matches. Cheers thanks for this. I will give it a try. Are you actually using DSLR? I got some mates,they use phone pics,good ones maybe downloaded off their Instagrams,but maybe they are good looking enough to not have to use a proper camera. Lol just kidding this guides really good actually!!

It took a turn for the worst when women started to co-opt it and slowly changed it from a straight up hook up app to something they could use secure commitment and accumulate beta orbiters. They changed the whole frame dynamic of what it was supposed to be. I've been actively using it for over a year, got laid off of it like 15 times which is relatively decent , but still, all of them were lower SMV or hot but batshit insane.

I've come to the conclusion that most of the women on Tinder are there because something isn't working out right in real life where they also have endless options.

I'm kind of at the crossroads where I can not decide whether this approach is smart or pathetic. Fake posing for tinder is like competing and winning in the paralympics for the mentally challenged. On one hand yay for you, on the other it seems like there are more dignified ways to get sex. This is quite amusing I'll give you that but who the hell needs a guide to get Tinder thots?

Why does it matter? I've seen a bunch of posts here lately about guys hating on Tinder because its not working for them. I wrote a guide on what you need to do to succeed. If after having read this guide you are still failing then you can criticize it all you want but chances are you're just ugly. If you want an easy lay the best pic to have is you on a horse. You will get endless girls swiping right on you. Should I make an Instagram? Anyone can do it, just takes some money and a suitcase.

You wanna know why modern girls are such bitchy, cunty, egotistical maniacs?? Because of apps like Tinder. You guys using these apps only makes it harder for yourselves in the long run. Women have priced themselves out of the market. The sooner you guys recognize that, get some self-control, and stop playing their games and jumping through their hoops, the sooner a market correction can begin. Read it all. All 9, pages.

You guys are so damn predictable. Makes total sense. That paladin dude is insane. I mean you can just tell from the writing, he really might have some mental issues. Maybe you should clue the audience in as to why I said that to you.

Of course, you conveniently leave that out. So just to clarify, you have to use an actual camera? So do you like get it to hover and take pictures while you put the the dorky looking controller out of the frame? Like are you doing overhead shots a lot? Shots at the edge of a ledge? If I have an entry level DSLR actually a newer more compact mirrorless type would it make more sense to get a drone that I can attach my existing camera to rather than paying for one with another camera?

I usually just have it hover in a location, set the interval timer, take some pics and then review the pictures, if I like it I take more in the same spot, if not I move it to another angle.

I've done the tripod and drone approach, the best part about the drone for me is being able to see in real time how the picture is framed on my phone, even though I have a phone remote controller for my phone, its a pain to have to move the tripod. Moving the drone is basically like moving a tripod but so much easier.

I don't recommend buying a drone unless you will get more out of it than just taking pictures of yourself. One easy way I've found to be picky with your swipes: if they use those stupid Snapchat filters as their first picture.

So she's caked in makeup AND a warping filter? And that's the first thing I see? If she doesn't like the way she looks, why should I? Not hard to accomplish step 2 with even minimal effort imo. Step 1 is where you see the difference between minimal effort and loads of it. Someone will be very lucky if can swipe to right one time in 10K. In the street you will find mostly the same monsters you get on Tinder but a bit better than Tinder.

Maybe this is because I live in Russia? But most likely you just have strange standards. Mexico City popped my Tinder cherry.

I never used it before, then I heard this american dude who was kinda ugly talking about how he had a Tinder date, and I decided to give it a go. It was incredible. Ended up going out with this sexy little 20yo the whole 2 weeks I was there. Damn, now I miss her. Latinas are the best. Anyway, that aside, may I ask your race? I just wanna know what made you want to take the time to write all this Yoy know a chick who got married last year.

Its still on Bumble abd claims she hasn't been on there since And you believe her? So why wouldn't she pull as much of her identity off it herself? How hard is it to go to her profile and click on a few "x" to delete her puctures.

My biggest problem with Tinder is that many women just use it as an ego boost to see how many right swipes they can get. I lift 5 Times a week. Have been for 2. Still i dont like tinder. You only get matches based on your pics , and if you are like me and never take any selfies and sucks at taking photos you are gonna have a hard time.

Now the RP side of me says to just not give a shit and let them put in the effort, but I find no one else does. Thats how it is brother. I don't mind the initial effort. I find that yeah, the effort is on you at first because these girls have so many options, but once they get a taste of how you are, you can start to retract. It's really fun to have girls chase you once they know you're a dope motherfucker.

And if the initial effort leads nowhere then fuck it. I only pursue up to a certain point. If I'm not seeing some response back then I cut in and move on. The logical conclusion is that the anti-Tinder crowd are those who suck at it, and the MGTOW crowd are those who suck with women. Love the post, just like the above comment it is extremely logic driven and uses said logic to lay out all of the steps in an efficient manner.

Your comment and post is literally bullshit free. You are spending your most precious resource time to take shirtless drone pics. Think about that. Health, wealth, happiness. Pussy is not the foundation of any of those. For red pill guys you seem to use very feminine shaming lines. I would say MGTOW guys can get laid easy and can be good with women, they usually make more money than the average redpiller but are on the older end of the spectrum and less inclined to put up with these hoops.

I mean, look at this fucking guide. It's very good but it's not that crazy that a man would not want to do any of this just for pussy. Its like setting up a fish net. And when you meet up, do the same thing. You can be good with women, and do no want to do with them anymore. Il all depends of your frame. Redpill and MGTOW have several commonalities, but one of them is a chunk of the user base which is frustrated posers.

The posers give either ideology a bad name and often get stereotyped as the character of the ideology itself. Your post is nice but this comment is ignorant. Try being open minded and turn down the "I am superior than you because I get women" attitude. Most guys here will avoid LTR and marriage and aim for spinning plates. All the effort you put into your frame, game and chasing puss, you could put in yourself, your career and making money.

Want a great fuck, hire an escort for the night. You're paying them to leave. For me, it took so much time and effort to chase these non professional chameleons. I'm still considered chad material among all these soy boy faggots in the acamedia environment where I work and study. I have milfs and student workers flirt with me all day and could be stacking plates on the side. But would rather stack chips, achieve self actualization, travel internationally and fuck hotter women who are desperate for a greencard.

Whatever I do won't come haunt me and immigration buffers them from ever seeing me again. That being said, it is a good guide for tinder. I recommend taking a professional picture in a suit. When I did that, I started matching with models and prettier gold diggers that I just pumped and dumped. If you put your mind to it, you can be a truly magnificent bastard.

Mallardcove, Good guide. I have matches because of gym, professional camera and lightroom. How do i filter the dating types from the hookups? How do i stop the girls from wanting more. A strategy for better hookups? I have enough matches and time but most want to date.. Its a hell of a lot easier to use Tinder for hookups than for dating. It's not that difficult, just do what you do and then ghost them after.

I've got the opposite problem. I do well on tinder, average a new hookup each month but most girls seem to be looking for exactly that - just a hookup. How would you recommend changing my strategy to get girls who want to date too? I've got a topless photo natural setting as my profile photo - would you remove it entirely or just not have it as the 1st picture?

I'm not against hookups but am kinda sick of it and would like something more long-term, but perhaps my profile is incongruent with that.

Tinder probably isn't the best hunting ground if that's what you're after. It's infamous for being more or less openly geared to casual hookups. Try Day Game or Social Circle Game if you're looking for something more serious, expand your options.

If you're overweight it may very well reduce hip size, and if you develop your back, especially your lats and your traps, your shoulders will appear broader. You can certainly make your arms more prominent and narrow your waist, and body fat percentage has a heavy influence on facial aesthetics as well.

Besides, what do you think is the better long term strategy; moving from a real 5 to a real 8 or staying at a 5 but photoshopping all your pictures so you can catfish people into thinking you're a 10? Fit and probably pretty attractive? Easy to do in a year if you genuinely put in the effort.

Basic shittest stuff. OP did a fantastic job highlighting how to become a better Tinder user without the smuggery or bias. This is one of the highest quality posts if seen on Reddit.

Much thanks! To pepper w some of my experiences, it helps to know what you want out of Tinder. When I first started I did get a bit jaded from the ghosting and such, but I made sure not to do that to others. Absolutely agree. All it took was one good picture of me holding a dog on a leash with forearm and bicep veins popping off to pop off my matches. I can't seriously date girls that I meet on tinder.

I'll hang out with them if I like them and hookup, but never an actual relationship. Too much work? Which part exactly? Reading this? Lifting, looking better, buying better clothes, taking some good photos?

So you're not really losing anything by doing this. I have some photos that I've put not only on my Tinder profile but also on my facebook profile and my instagram page. And all of this gets more attention towards me, bringing more women into my world. So even the photos are not useless. Im 34 and 1. Better than nothing and all the failed attempts are just speeding me up to how the game is now.

You should do them as part of your identity. Dress well by default, not just for Tinder photos. Take the pictures for your social media presence first, and Tinder second.

You should already be lifting, dressing well, eating right, staying in shape, know how to flirt and communicate via text. The only effort here that is added is taking pictures. So you take a few hours out of a few day to go take some good pictures. Oh no, so much effort. Great write up man. My question is in regards to the drone.. I might actually get one. But won't all of your pics have you holding a drone remote controller?

Seems a little unnatural. You can set a 10 sec countdown timer. Get your shot framing, click the button, move the controller out of the frame and enjoy. To be honest.

Woman Man

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